Not sure how lucky I will be to score me some sees but if anyone has any, please I would be so happy to receive for postage. I am trying to put some fencing up on the land (it is cca. I've tried quite a few ways, and the best I've found so far is to cut along next to the seeds in the pods with scissors. Can anyone suggest a way to reduce the number of pods next year? As Tom says, their seed coat is very hard. Seedpods contain, in addition to seeds, a sweet gummy substance that gives honey locust its common name. Also commonly known as a thorny locust, this native American tree glows golden in the fall, but bears a menacing array of thorns. Yep, make sure they're not black locust, everything of which is poisonous. Trace, did the one with the grub still in it have a big hole or just a little hole? Many honey locusts are popular ornamental plants. These pictures were taken when I removed the seeds from the freezer, so you can see that the. The tree is native to the U.S. and is also known as yellow locust. Skyline® is a thornless variety with a stronger upright growth form, few seed pods, and excellent yellow fall color. This is an adaptable tree especially good for streets and parking lots. Anyone has any idea ? Weâve pollarded some of those trees and t B, Bee Awesome: You've probably seen them and not recognized them. The pulp was used as traditional medicine and food by Native Americans and is still used to â¦ For one example, I used to start lots of the related Kentucky coffee tree from seeds we'd collect in a cemetery here in town. The honey locust pods and seeds are much larger. Honey locust seed pods ripen in late spring and germinate rapidly when temperatures are warm enough. Autumn is the perfect time for planting these trees, Roll out a welcome mat for pollinators to keep your landscape in balance and thriving, Attract these beautiful songbirds with nesting habitat and food sources, including berry-producing trees and shrubs, It's invasive, a nonnative and a poor insect magnet. Ionel Catanescu wrote:Hi all you hardworking people. New owners of houses frequently mark their territory by chopping down trees. Apparently the Honey Locust is good cattle fodder (so I've heard) but as for a tree in the garden, I would steer clear. If so, you should eventually be able to find one or more which are bearing seeds. Honey locust (Gleditsia triacanthos) grows up to 80 feet tall. They sucker...if you post in a local regional forum you can probably find someone who will let you dig up unwanted suckers. 1 mile long on the perimeter). Anyone has any idea ? (Seeds and pods.) One of these is honeylocust (Gleditsia Triacanthos). By the time the water was cool enough for one to handle, the seeds were ready for planting. The sticky pulp inside the pods are edible. The pods of the honey locust tree are also eaten by wild â¦ "Flat branches" doesn't ring any bells unless you are talking about winged elm, which has little ridges along both the branches and on the trunk? The trees have compound leaves and are literally covered in very sharp very stout ... Their seed pods, if collected before they dry up in the fall, contain nice smelling goo. Among landscaping trees, honey locust has become very common, and with good reason. Black locust (Robinia pseudoacacia), are members of the legume family leguminosae. Wild honey locust have large, sharp thorns up to 20 centimeters long. . Dan Boone wrote:The seeds are very hard and almost impossible to damage, plus they tend to want a bit of scarification (which is to say, a few nicks and abrasions is a good thing) for easy germination. The seeds can be dried, roasted and ground and used as a substitute for coffee. I guess you are proving that assertion! I'm not sure it changes the prevention options either way, just curious. Ionel Catanescu wrote:I have no idea how to remove (on a large scale) the seeds from the pods. This year, it's spawning an insane number of seed pods (it seems there are more pods than leaves on the tree!) I moved into a house a couple of years ago that has a honey locust in the front yard. Picked up 1000 seeds in maybe 15 seconds. And then I heard that you can feed the pods to cattle, and that the seeds just pass right through. SAM 38 Settle in for Adventure in Wheaton Labs Homestead!!! Some seedling trees 5-6 years old have trunks 6â-8â in diameter and over 20â tall. Not known for flowers, and actually not great nitrogen fixers. Lime color in the summer and and reddish-brown in the fall, the pods are 12 to 18 inches long and contain 12 to 14 seeds. Honey locusts commonly have thorns 3â10 cm long growing out of the branches, some reaching lengths over 20 cm; these may be single, or branched into several points, and â¦ It is a long-lived tree that tolerates wind storms and ice. Don't treatments like that require impeccable timing too? In another thread, Dave mentioned eating honey locust pods. Sometimes a little bump helps. Also contains up to 13% protein. For the next several years they only bore a small to average amount of seed. wisconsitom, you are right, just that I am new and hope to get me some seeds of this. Lots of leguminous species (honeylocust is one such) have very hard seed coats. Here is a thread with more information on getting those seeds to germinate once you've separated them: https://permies.com/t/12091/plants/Planting-Honey-Locust-seed. I'm thinking that if they're moving from seed to seed as you suggested, the hole would be big like the empty seeds. Domestic animals such as sheep, goats, and cattle will also forage on the honey locust bean pods. Anyway I really do need to come by for a visit once this current slug of work slows down. Legumes Seed Pods Honey Locust Seeds Fruits Tree-20 Inch By 30 Inch Laminated Poster With Bright Colors And Vivid Imagery-Fits Perfectly In Many Attractive Frames $15.99 $ 15 . Is there any reason anyone knows of regarding why this is happening this year? Millwood Honey Locust Scionwood Leguminous Food and Fodder Trees Select grafted variety of honey locust from the farm of David Millwood near Lake Junuluska, North Carolina. As in, you'd already cut them out of the pods and sorted away the ones with visible bug holes before freezing? And I would be happy to help you identify any trees that I know. It is resistant to gypsy moths, but is attacked by the mimosa webworm, spider mites, cankers, and galls. If you cut along one side of the pod, they open easily and you can use your thumb to scrape the seeds out. As to reasons for" mast years", I've seen sunspot activity mentioned as one possibility, and the changes in weather can possibly play a role. My understanding is that they are great nitro fixers and pollinators as well as easy goes. Making them isnât complicated, so long as you remember that it is not the beans or seeds that you eat, but the pods surrounding those seeds. Many species have environmental cues that cause what is called a 'mast'. Check out these better alternatives to butterfly bush in the garden, Vivacious orange flowers for you, nectar for the butterflies and bees. That is what they do. The tree knows this, and is putting all of it's energy into making babies in the hope some of them will survive. Unlike many fast-growing trees, though, the honey locust does not have invasive roots or weak wood. Thornless Honeylocust on the Tree Guide at arborday.org, No, it doesn't actually produce honey. I took a couple quick pictures to show Honey Locust seeds that have been invaded by some tiny creature. Even if the same parties found their way back to this thread-highly unlikely given the changeover from gardenweb to houzz-the seeds in question would have long since lost their viability. It was early days for me in the nursery then and I assumed that every year we would collect 8 bags. Honey locust seed pods ripen in late spring and germinate rapidly when temperatures are warm enough. I've heard that the pod seeds are too hard to eat. No. Honey locust, the pods are rich in sugar, the seeds are rich in protein. As in, you'd already cut them out of the pods and sorted away the ones with visible bug holes before freezing? But its dappled light and tolerant nature are treats in city and country settings alike, Beauty is its own reward, but the benefits of planting the right tree in the right place go way beyond looks, Big foliage and a towering height provide a shady respite in summer, but that's not all hardy catalpa offers dedicated gardeners, Denser than other hardwoods and sporting beautiful coloration, mesquite makes a fine material for flooring, countertops, furniture and more, Donât put down that spade! Posts: 175. Gleditsia Triacanthos var. It grows as much as 20 feet in the first 10 years and can eventually grow 70 feet high. about how to make it happen. The big picture matters. The honey locust has clusters of small, creamy-green flowers that bloom in late spring and early summer. So although I am tempted to say that they loved the weather conditions that year, perhaps in fact it startled them, no end. (Which is a GREAT nitrogen fixer and invasive species). Use a hammer mill or maybe even a chipper/shredder. A "built" fence is a no-no (due do $$$) but a tree/shrub hedge is ok. The pods will break up and most of the seeds will just fall out. Carob (Ceratonia siliqua) grows in warmish climates [â¦] Every year? I want to see those beautyberries as I have never found any closer than Arkansas! The bean pods are a favorite food of the white-tailed deer, squirrels, rabbits, hogs, opossums, and raccoons. I'd love to find someone who knows more trees and wild edibles than I do to help me identify them. 4. posted 5 years ago. Honey locust is used extensively by wildlife. Also, any idea what the trees in this area are with the flat branches? The seed pods do, however, have a honey-like sweet taste. Major selling points are they are VERY salt tolerant, their sparse foliage means they are easy to plant under, and they tolerate being planted in tiny squares in sidewalks. Both carob and honey locust pods can be turned into naturally sweet powders that are versatile ingredients to have on hand. They have sparse fern-like compound leaves and look leggy. Bee, this is a convo that took place in 2011. info. If thorns are present on the tree, they will be much larger on the honey locust. The previous owner came by for a visit and said that this year's load is greater than she had ever seen in the 20+ years that she lived there. What worked with those was to first of all, strip the actual seeds -they look like big beans-out of the pods, then place them into a bucket of very hot water. I harvested brown pods from a neighbor's lawn in early spring from an inermis variety that has yields of pods like crazy. Each pod has about 6-20 seeds and a yellow, brown or light green, sugary, sweet pulp, which makes sense given that they rely on animals for dispersal. Do we have honey locusts in our area? Honey Locust is a medium sized tree that is easy to identify. Permaculture isn't that hard to understand. This variety has no thorns and produces NO bean pods means no mess from this tree. Most landscape honey locusts are a bred variety, G. triacanthos var. These seeds and pods provide food for many species such as white-tailed deer, squirrels and quail, and have even been used to make beer! This goo is edible and has a sweet taste. Is there any reason anyone knows of regarding why this is happening this year? There is a theory that they evolved to use wild horses to spread their seeds...but then the early Native Americans hunted horses to extinction in North America. They are a mess. I decided to grow a garden and the past few months it's been researching (thanks internet and generous gardeners who post tons of good vids!!) The thornless varieties of honeylocust are among the most popular street trees planted nowadays. Its pods are flat and shaped like a strap. The species knows how to get the seeds out of the pods and germinated without human labor. The unripe pods can be eaten after cooking. Never again. Honey Locust Tree Uses Food. Permaculture/Biodynamics aspects have so much appeal...working on my first compost pile (my first on everything really)...anyhow, I think gardening is bringing out in me a nice side I did not I had. Honey locust tree flowers. Ionel Catanescu. The honey locust (Gleditsia triacanthos) is a fast-growing tree. The long pods will â¦ 99 $3.79 shipping inermis, that does not have thorns (inermis means âunarmedâ). I moved into a house a couple of years ago that has a honey locust in the front yard. My feeling is that seeds from 2011 (or even a lot older than that) would still be viable. that squirrels will fish the seeds out of the pods. The first logical perceptions of the honey locust were made during the 1700s, and was named âhoney locustâ because of the sweet honey-like substance contained in the legume pods. The female honey locust trees produce long, flat and twisted fruits (or seed pods). Do you mind sharing some seeds for postage? What I do have in abundance is black walnut, oak, and sumac so maybe I can trade some of that for honey locust seeds (and other things). Black locust trees bloom in May through June with whitish flowers that are fragrant. However, this tree when grown from seed has thorns that are long, thin, sharp and threatening. I have gathered seed for all kind of shrubs and trees for this purpose. The seed pods of this tree contain a sweet pulp that is edible, unlike the pods of the black locust tree, which are toxic and should not be consumed. Can anyone suggest a way to reduce the number of pods next year? =\ Perhaps it was the dramatic change from cold and wet to hot and dry that caused it. You can see with only one eye open, but you'll probably run into things and stub your toe. All that said, it is not difficult to acquire seeds for such trees as honeylocust. The sugary pods, which contain the honey locust seed, are extremely high in protein. In other places I have seen it written that a household freezer is often not cold enough to swiftly and reliably kill seed pests. I found wild persimmon seeds in coyote scat on the driveway so somewhere near here there must be at least one persimmon tree. The seeds, raw or cooked can also be used in food as they taste like peas. The compound leaves are fern-like, with a fine texture and the branching pattern is relatively open and airy. I don't know what causes it in honeylocust. Hi all you hardworking people. Although the cultivar name is Suncole, the plant is usually referred to by its trademark name, Sunburst. Instead, the honey locust relies on various species of wildlife and livestock to eat the pods and spread their seeds. Success with this method approached 100%. That said I will be happy to bring you seeds if you want, no need to trade for them. I'm not saying honeylocust would require this, just that each species has its own set of requirements to get germination to happen. You are probably thinking of Black Locust. Honey locust seeds are richer in protein (20-30% DM) than the pods but contain lower or similar amounts of cell wall constituents (ADF 13-15% DM) and much less lignin (less than 2% DM) (Papanastasis et al., 1999). Dan Boone wrote:Anybody managing land for horses has probably cut them all down decades ago and brushhogged out all seedlings many years running. Honey locust seed pods ripen in late spring and germinate rapidly when temperatures are warm enough. Nothing still extant and native to North America really likes their pods, but their pods are full of sugary goo that is believed to be trying to attract something. Good luck! The pale green seed pods turn reddish-brown and black, when they mature. Many people on YouTube, including some nursery owners (who should know better! Cattle, sheep, goats, pigs will love them and thrive on them. Honey Locust Pods. Gail Gardner @GrowMap Small Business Marketing Strategist, lived on an organic farm in SE Oklahoma, but moved where I can plant more trees. Some may recommend Florel, but how are you going to get it to the top of the tree? I thank-you for the generous feedback and always happy to learn. Are you familiar with the general appearance of the tree? [clarification needed] Honey locusts commonly have thorns 3â10 cm (1.2â3.9 in) long growing out of the branches, some reaching lengths over 20 cm (8 in); these may be single, or branched into several points, and commonly form dense clusters. But my place is full of these trees so i'm ok. The tree can reach a height of 60 feet and have a width of 30 inches. Location: Timisoara, Romania, 45N, 21E, Z6-7, Location: Southern Manitoba, Canada, Zone 3B. These animals can include horses, cattle, rabbits, foxes and crows. Thanks anyway. wisconsitom, no, I am not personally familiar with them as I only seen them in pic/vids. Compared to the black locust, the honey locust treeâs flowers arenât as showy and stunning. If you get that far-and it won't be this time of year, as far as viable seeds are concerned-get back to us and we can help you source seed germination/etc. Thanks, Pecan Media: food forestry and forest garden ebooks Now available: The Native Persimmon (centennial edition). It's easy to tell where the seeds are in the pods, so it's easy to cut the pods without hitting the seeds. Seeds. We live in Colorado.The tree is approximately 30 years old.We water it three times a week with a standard sprinkler system.This year's summer started very cool and wet, but has become very hot and dry. 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